I wanted to like The Clone Age: Adventures in the New World of Reproductive Technology
by Lori B. Andrews, I really did. Some of what Lori Andrews says is intelligent, but she allows her misunderstanding of basic science to get in the way. Of course, the majority of attorneys have no scientific training, so this does not surprise me. I was just disappointed.
Ms. Andrews started her career in US reproductive medical law with supporting surrogacy. She found herself representing a variety of men and women trying to have children. Surrogates – except for some high-profile media cases – were very likely to be doing this for altruistic reasons. Seeking no more than compensation for their actual medical expenses, these women see themselves as helping those who want to have what these women so love having – a family. Despite some feminists trying to argue that these women were exploited, there were no signs of this with reputable surrogacy agencies.


This was not the beginning of 3rd party reproduction. Donor sperm has been around for around 100 years and there are a myriad of historical perspectives on the legal issues that ensued. In some places using it was equivalent to adultery – in most jurisdictions the marital bond provided legal parentage no matter the actual biological parentage. These laws could not easily be translated to relate to surrogacy and a patchwork of laws now hold sway in the USA.
My own state of Michigan was – and is – one of the most backwards. (I, personally, blame the undue influence of the Catholic Church and Dutch Reformed Church in the state’s legislative body.) Things have been improving, but not by much. Michigan, unfortunately, was the scene of one of the more egregious surrogacy fiascos resulting in a woman who was not psychologically equipped to deal with being a traditional surrogate being a surrogate. Of course, most of the law surrounds traditional surrogacy with no acknowledgement that carrying a child does not automatically mean that you have provided the primary genetic material (an oocyte) to create the child. Gestational surrogates opened up a whole new kettle of fish.
Ms. Andrews was comfortable with traditional surrogacy, but not comfortable with egg donation or gestational surrogacy in the same way. She shows an underlying hostility towards others using egg donation due to her perception of extreme danger for the donor. (Pregnancy is still more dangerous than controlled ovarian stimulation, statistically speaking.) Of course, math illiteracy is endemic to attorneys and politicians – not to mention the entire general population, educated or not. She outright fears any kind of cloning.
This is where she completely loses me. I do not fear reproductive cloning. And so many people feel they must cut off cloning at that point no matter what.
Of course, Ms. Andrews argues that the problem is with the idea of cloning in total. I have to wonder what happened to her that she fears cloning since experiment after experiment has shown clones are not exact replicas of their genetic parent. Of course, I am used to hanging out with clones knowing too many identical twins who are nothing alike. (They actually run in my family.) It is hard to fear something you have been living with without incident.
Now, if she is talking about due diligence in research, that is something separate. I am all for proper scientific rigor being used to ensure the safety and efficacy of any new procedure. She, however, has decided there can be no benefit of this.
One of the things that bothers me most about the book is the lack of empathy she shows. She kind of admits this when she mentions that she had expected to have trouble having her child since she had been immersed in reproductive medicine for quite awhile. Surgeons, being surgeons – even when they are OB/Gyns – gave her a hard time during her pregnancy which probably alienated her further from them. (Every profession has a weak point they are known for, surgeons have egos that are dwarfed only by the emerging emergency medicine subspecialty. OB/Gyns just happen to be the “nice” surgeons.)
Interestingly, she predicted with great foreboding the development of pleuripotent stem cells from non-embryonic tissue. She actually seems to tend towards considering a blastocyst a person. This is patently absurd to anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of biology.
Now, she does make some good points. One of which is the privatization of the genome. She mistakenly states that the US has never limited patent applications. This is simply not true.
The U.S. Patent Office used to actually forbid the patenting of animals and humans – until Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan was the devil himself, as far as I’m concerned. He is the father of the destruction of the Republic. I didn’t like him when he was elected and he did everything I thought he would do. GWB is the natural extension of his policies. Under Reagan, suddenly, previously unpatentable farm patents were being granted. Now, granted, plant patents have always been granted.
If you ever get the chance you should go to your local patent center and take a look at some of the older plant patents. They are gorgeous.
Now, here is the thing, discoveries of facts are not supposed to be patentable. So patenting the genome should be challenged. Unfortunately, the attorneys and magistrates involved are not educated enough to deal with the nuances of science. Those making the decisions are normally people who went out of their way to avoid taking math or science classes!
On page 213 is where she lost me totally:
But we do not usually look to ten-year-old children for assessment of the morality of an issue. . . the fact that many adults still feel the “yuck factor” when thinking about the issue of fetal ovarian transplantation indicates that the concept is not a comfortable one.
I would argue that a 10 year old child would have a stronger grasp of the science than the average Congress Critter or attorney. And, since I would think the maturity of a 10 year old beats the maturity of many politicians I have dealt with (think 2 to 3 year-old “me-me-me-me” mentality), I can’t give credence to the idea that this is some sort of standard. Think about it. Even grown men get squeamish when dealing with women’s cycles. Should they be making any laws dictating what is done to a woman in regards to that cycle?
Another part that made me want to shake the woman silly was her diatribe about how it was all about cloning men. Um… She was in Dubai! Arabic culture is very misogynistic. The truth in the West is that despite most of the physicians in the research being men (not all) the majority of the research monies have been private endowments by women for women suffering from various forms of infertility.
Think about that: Women are the primary financial supporters of infertility treatment.
It bothers me that this woman has such a strong influence on the legal landscape worldwide. She portrays herself as the go-to gal for a variety of governments. I have no reason to disbelieve this. I don’t think those without science education or knowledge should be allowed to dictate the debate.
Most people refuse to educate themselves about something if they find it “icky,” and I think this woman finds cloning icky. It isn’t. There are very real problems in the current cloning technology that we do not yet know how to fix – especially those involving cell aging and death. But, at the same time cloning research is finding those issues, aging research is working on stopping cell aging. Does she even mention this? Nope.
I was very disappointed that a seeming friend to the infertility community is really a frenemy. One who poses as a friend only to sabotage hope and future advancement. This woman would stop many of the people I know from being parents due to her undue concentration on statistical aberrations such as a case where an IVF child died at the hands of his father.
Study after study has shown that children who are born to parents who had to go to the lengths of IVF (and one day I will blog just how involved that is), are perceived as more cared for even by the child. The rate of abuse in the general population makes even the most horrendous cases of abuse in IVF to shame. I know, I worked in that part of law enforcement and know people who are still involved. It really does argue for a license to be a parent.
It is telling that one Texas Reproductive Endocrinologist informed Ms. Andrews that she would never pass his clinic’s psychological evaluation to become a patient.
One last entertaining item that shows how little this woman understands of human nature is when speaking of an 18 to 21 year old man whose parents wanted to preserve his seed and create a grandchild, actually says “But is it really feasible that their son would have wanted to spread his seed across Wisconsin?” (p 232). The male of most mammalian species is quite promiscuous. Humans are not an exception. Now, yes, there is a “squee” factor to posthumous conception, but, if it is right for some couple to preserver their line, it isn’t going to stop just because some lawyer says so.
If you want to know your frenemy, read the The Clone Age: Adventures in the New World of Reproductive Technology
. Otherwise, consider it just more anti-reproductive technology tripe and anti-cloning nonsense.